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sweetfreedom

02-24-2003, 04:02 PM

I loaded my site and everything works except if you click outside of the text on Mailing List in the NAV Bar this comes up!!! Sorry, couldn't figure out how to crop the picture from the page! (Been trying for the last hour and a half!!!) :roll:

http://www.sitefights.com/community/aboutme/sweetfreedom/Mailing_List_error.jpg

Not only does this page come up but if you click on Parent Directory, there is a double site! Go here and try and see what I mean.... (remember, you have to click outside the text on Mailing List.
http://ddgifts.rightstuffhosting.com/Spring

If you click outside of the text on the other ones either nothing happens or you go to the correct page. I tried reloading the page, but that didn't help.

spongebob

02-25-2003, 01:04 PM

Hi Sweet Freedom

Just add .html at the end of 'Mailing_List' in your brackets

onMouseUp="LmUp('Mailing_List')" bgcolor="#6EC36E">Mailing List (Mailing_List.html)</td></tr>

Mr T.C.

02-25-2003, 04:57 PM

Looks like Spongebob got it fixed for you. Easy mistake to make as each button has two links (like you figured) one for the text and another for the "button area".

You have a lot of links now. I'd change to a small font like 8pt...

.Navlink {COLOR: #000000; TEXT-DECORATION: none; font-family: arial; font-size: 8pt; font-weight: bold;}

And reduce the cell padding to make smaller buttons. You could also look at color coding a few of the buttons to make it clearer...
http://com32.com/RStuff/springMenu.html

I changed the text to black to help on the darker green too.

Check it works A OK before saving your OWS!..

HEAD...

<style type="text/css">

</style>

<script language = "javascript">

</script>

Body...

<table align="left" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
<tr>
<td>

<table border="0" bordercolor="darkgreen" width="120" bgcolor="#000000" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2">
<tr><td width="100%" onMouseover="LmOver(this, '#005E00')" onMouseout="LmOut(this, '#419141')" onMouseDown="LmDown(this, '#005E00')"
onMouseUp="LmUp('Home.html')" bgcolor="#419141">Home (Home.html)</td></tr>
<tr><td width="100%" onMouseover="LmOver(this, '#005E00')" onMouseout="LmOut(this, '#419141')" onMouseDown="LmDown(this, '#005E00')"
onMouseUp="LmUp('About_Us.html')" bgcolor="#419141">About Us (About_Us.html)</td></tr>
<tr><td width="100%" onMouseover="LmOver(this, '#005E00')" onMouseout="LmOut(this, '#419141')" onMouseDown="LmDown(this, '#005E00')"
onMouseUp="LmUp('Contact_Us.html')" bgcolor="#419141">Contact Us (Contact_Us.html)</td></tr>
<tr><td width="100%" onMouseover="LmOver(this, '#005E00')" onMouseout="LmOut(this, '#419141')" onMouseDown="LmDown(this, '#005E00')"
onMouseUp="LmUp('Guarantee.html')" bgcolor="#419141">Guarantee (Guarantee.html)</td></tr>
<tr><td width="100%" onMouseover="LmOver(this, '#005E00')" onMouseout="LmOut(this, '#419141')" onMouseDown="LmDown(this, '#005E00')"
onMouseUp="LmUp('How_To_Order.html')" bgcolor="#419141">How To Order (How_To_Order.html)</td></tr>
<tr><td width="100%" onMouseover="LmOver(this, '#005E00')" onMouseout="LmOut(this, '#419141')" onMouseDown="LmDown(this, '#005E00')"
onMouseUp="LmUp('Mailing_List.html')" bgcolor="#419141">Mailing List (Mailing_List.html)</td></tr>
<tr><td width="100%" onMouseover="LmOver(this, '#005E00')" onMouseout="LmOut(this, '#6EC36E')" onMouseDown="LmDown(this, '#005E00')"
onMouseUp="LmUp('Birdfeeders.html')" bgcolor="#6EC36E">Birdfeeders (Birdfeeders.html)</td></tr>
<tr><td width="100%" onMouseover="LmOver(this, '#005E00')" onMouseout="LmOut(this, '#6EC36E')" onMouseDown="LmDown(this, '#005E00')"
onMouseUp="LmUp('Birdhouses.html')" bgcolor="#6EC36E">Birdhouses (Birdhouses.html)</td></tr>
<tr><td width="100%" onMouseover="LmOver(this, '#005E00')" onMouseout="LmOut(this, '#6EC36E')" onMouseDown="LmDown(this, '#005E00')"
onMouseUp="LmUp('Candleholders.html')" bgcolor="#6EC36E">Candle Holders (Candleholders.html)</td></tr>
<tr><td width="100%" onMouseover="LmOver(this, '#005E00')" onMouseout="LmOut(this, '#6EC36E')" onMouseDown="LmDown(this, '#005E00')"
onMouseUp="LmUp('Dragons.html')" bgcolor="#6EC36E">Dragons (Dragons.html)</td></tr>
<tr><td width="100%" onMouseover="LmOver(this, '#005E00')" onMouseout="LmOut(this, '#6EC36E')" onMouseDown="LmDown(this, '#005E00')"
onMouseUp="LmUp('Easter.html')" bgcolor="#6EC36E">Easter (Easter.html)</td></tr>
<tr><td width="100%" onMouseover="LmOver(this, '#005E00')" onMouseout="LmOut(this, '#6EC36E')" onMouseDown="LmDown(this, '#005E00')"
onMouseUp="LmUp('Fairies.html')" bgcolor="#6EC36E">Fairies (Fairies.html)</td></tr>
<tr><td width="100%" onMouseover="LmOver(this, '#005E00')" onMouseout="LmOut(this, '#6EC36E')" onMouseDown="LmDown(this, '#005E00')"
onMouseUp="LmUp('Frogs.html')" bgcolor="#6EC36E">Frogs (Frogs.html)</td></tr>
<tr><td width="100%" onMouseover="LmOver(this, '#005E00')" onMouseout="LmOut(this, '#6EC36E')" onMouseDown="LmDown(this, '#005E00')"
onMouseUp="LmUp('Medieval.html')" bgcolor="#6EC36E">Medieval (Medieval.html)</td></tr>
<tr><td width="100%" onMouseover="LmOver(this, '#005E00')" onMouseout="LmOut(this, '#6EC36E')" onMouseDown="LmDown(this, '#005E00')"
onMouseUp="LmUp('Plaques.html')" bgcolor="#6EC36E">Plaques (Plaques.html)</td></tr>
<tr><td width="100%" onMouseover="LmOver(this, '#005E00')" onMouseout="LmOut(this, '#6EC36E')" onMouseDown="LmDown(this, '#005E00')"
onMouseUp="LmUp('Roosters.html')" bgcolor="#6EC36E">Roosters (Roosters.html)</td></tr>
<tr><td width="100%" onMouseover="LmOver(this, '#005E00')" onMouseout="LmOut(this, '#419141')" onMouseDown="LmDown(this, '#005E00')"
onMouseUp="LmUp('The_Mall.html')" bgcolor="#419141">The Mall (The_Mall.html)</td></tr>
</table>
</tr>
</td>
</table>

sweetfreedom

02-25-2003, 05:52 PM

Thanks TC and Spongebob, I had already changed the font to 8pt about 15 minutes ago.

I know I already bugged you TC about the Java Script for the Nav Bar and you were busy at the time - Mary said she would help me but she hasn't gotten back to me yet. I have pleaded for help on the WS forum again just this morning but no replies yet. (I didn't start a new topic though - that might help)

I think I really need a script where I can have submenus. I have been looking at these scripts I have downloaded but it doesn't make any sense to me. I think if someone could just show me where I put my titles and subtitles I could do it... I really appreciate all the help you have already given me!

Is there a good website that explains Java Script for Dummies??? I have looked on Java Script Source and Java Boutique and a couple others but it is still over my head!

I just changed the Nav Bar TC it does look better - Thanks - :bear: I still have Mother's Day, Father's Day and the 4th of July to go not to mention whatever else my little heart might decide to throw in there. That is why I am thinking something with subtitles might be better...

Mr T.C.

02-25-2003, 08:33 PM

Ask Shane for the link to HVmenu which seems pretty good! I have that but not used it on a site yet. Or simply buy the best for $35 and take the work out of it with an easy menu maker, loads of fancy styles (checkout the SAMPLES)...
http://sothink.com/webtools/dhtmlmenu/index.htm

Mr T.C.

02-26-2003, 07:31 AM

Hold On a minute... I'm thinking I never used an expanding menu in frames. Where does it expand to I wonder?... Will it cross into the the content frame area?? Know what I mean?

You might need one that expands vertically, within your nave frame width. I don't know :?

Anyone?

Mary B.

02-26-2003, 08:13 PM

Here's what HVMenu does in frames, if anyone wants to look: http://gmbwebworks.com/hvtest/

Not very user-friendly, I'd say. The Sothink menu looks nice, but I'd like to see how it acts in frames before I'd consider buying it. One good thing, though, I checked the menu on the Sothink site pages in Opera 6, IE5.5, NS6, NS7, and NS4.72, and it works well in all those browser versions.

[On Edit] http://www.srctec.com/webtools/dhtmlmenu/samples/index.htm

It looks like the frame containing the menu has to be wide enough (or tall enough) to accomodate the sub-menus. Too bad, it's a nice little menu.

Shane

02-26-2003, 08:42 PM

There's a seperate main j/s file for HV menu in frames, examples on the authors site and a set-up frames doc with the download. Seems to work okay, but I'm no expert on frames. (or the HV menu come to that)

http://www.burmees.nl/menu/examples/exampletwoframes.htm not pretty either :shocked: unless you like cats. But working.

Mary B.

02-26-2003, 09:00 PM

Ok, that helps! Sweetfreedom sent me the link to the menu at Dynamic Drive - there's no special .js file for frames in that download. :wink: With this, I can get the thing going for her. Thanks, Shane!

Mr T.C.

02-26-2003, 11:01 PM

I have to say I hate expanding menus. I have Sothink but only like the simple examples. Fancy animation appeals to site makers and owners but I think the key to a well explored site is simple Nav. People need the button in their face to think to click it. Expanding menus hide buttons.

Nice to see jake here! :D

Mary B.

02-26-2003, 11:10 PM

I'm with you, TC, I like simple text navigation best, or smallish buttons with clear text. A minimalist at heart!

LOL! Jake is everywhere! http://justjaketales.com

Mr T.C.

02-27-2003, 12:47 AM

Awwwwwe:
"I will show you those pictures as soon as I can get on the computer again! Shhhhhh. Don't tell!"

meta name="creation-date" content="Tue, 8 May, 2001"

POOR JAKE!!! :(

http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung/grinser/grinning-smiley-021.gif

Mr T.C.

02-27-2003, 12:56 AM

Shane - HV does indeed look good. Fast and 'clean'. Sothink has some VERY cool templates but I think HV is more for me. Nice!

Shane

02-27-2003, 01:24 AM

Yeah HV seems to work well.....I'll say it before Richard (or in case he's not following this thread).....bit cheeky really as he put me onto them....but the only one I think I'd pay for is Project VII Menu Magic.... http://www.projectseven.com/ check their site out, for more detail. (sorry Richard!)

I agree with the general concensus though...too much fancy navigation and depending on the site content, visitor is lost & gone.

Flash ho

02-27-2003, 02:15 PM

Following cheekily, trying not to push the MM mothership so much... but.....Sometimes a site has soo many links, drop downs are needed. PVII is the leader in the Dreamweaver community, but there are also free nav components for DW, FW and of course Flash.

(Hi Sam, I think he is here with Suzy Q too.)

Mr T.C.

02-27-2003, 05:30 PM

"Sometimes a site has soo many links"
I think this is often bad planning. Relate it to finding somewhere in your car. You follow the sign to BigTown and only as you approach you get signs to smaller places within the BigTown area. Can you imagine if sign-post makers wanted to display pointers to every location in the country on every post. Be more confusing than useful no matter how clever the thing unfolded.

Click a "Budget Computers" link and the page you get includes the further links to all areas within the Budget section. I don't think all the budget section page links need to come tumbling out of one master menu at once.

Just my thoughts

sweetfreedom

02-28-2003, 02:36 AM

I just looked at the Holiday Page! :cry: That is soooo "Kool"!!!
It is really nice to be able to put a face with a name!

Thank you for all the input on this thread - Especially, "THANK YOU MARY!!!" For helping me with this!

Are you guys saying that the public would rather see a bunch of small text links instead of a menu like this??? I really like the HV Menu, I think all those links look overwhelming and cluttered. Just my opinion....

http://www.sitefights.com/community/aboutme/sweetfreedom/jake.gif

Mary B.

02-28-2003, 02:56 AM

Well, I wouldn't make such a broad generalization based on only our few opinions, but personally, I think any business site that isn't cross-browser friendly is losing customers. Maybe only a few, but if you're just starting out, those few could make a difference.

The HVMenu doesn't show up at all in Opera, which is becoming a more popular browser. On it's good side, it does work well in several versions of NS and IE, which probably covers most, if not all of your visitors.

Keep an eye on your stats. If you notice that you're getting more visitors using browsers other than IE and NS, it might be time to think about a more cross-browser friendly navigation system. Simply putting footer links on your pages would help.

sweetfreedom

02-28-2003, 04:11 AM

Mary, I didn't realize the menu wasn't friendly with all the browsers! Maybe I should rethink this... If it doesn't work at all in Opera, what shows up - nothing??? I don't think I like that! Like you say alot of people are using that now...

I just reread your post and you said NS and IE would cover most if not all my customers - maybe I am O.K. with using the script then. I just think it catagorizes my (I guess you might call them departments) better than having them in Alphabetical order or just mish mashed in a long stream of text links.

BTW - How do I go about making the ows files you want?

Oh yeah, I plan on doing the text links at the bottom of each page - I have been studying the WS SEO Forum.

fuhgedaboutit

02-28-2003, 05:17 AM

Hi Sweet, I remember someone posting a link (problably Richard?) to a program that lets you see how your site looks in different browsers. (Without down loading & installing the specific browser.) Maybe he or someone will remember.

On edit > I was checking your site out and came across a small type-o. Birdfeeders > Item 30706 > you have one extra "i" in Fashioned.
________
Bondage rope (http://www.fucktube.com/categories/400/rope/videos/1)

Shane

02-28-2003, 05:35 AM

HV works in Opera for me straight off the Dynamic Drive site Mary, both vertical and horizontal, this is strange. It wasn't showing for TC in Opera either. I'm testing with Opera 7 but guessing you both are too. I tried it ages ago for a site..used flash in the end... and had some Netscape 4 probs that no-one else was getting, they could be fixed, kinda easily and are on the version you are using Sweetfreedom (it was with an earlier HV Menu version). Guess it just shows that it's not 100% compatpatable.

Don't panic though Sweetfreedom and do as Mary said, check your stats and add those bottom text links.

There was a couple of sites as Dusty suggests, not sure they were 100% reliable though. http://www.anybrowser.com/ has usefull info but it's 'any browser' viewer has a couple of flaws. (I've found, anyway). Nothing beats testing in the browsers on your own computer.

Mr T.C.

02-28-2003, 10:56 AM

I have a download of HV from a while back and assumed this older version didn't support Opera7. It didn't work for me anyway. I'll look at it again sometime too.

Just to add to confusion, Opera identifies itself as IE so I guess you don't really know how many users are visiting. You can change this in Opera's Quick Preferences but I'm sure most users won't bother.

sweetfreedom

02-28-2003, 02:46 PM

Thanks, Dusty for the heads up on the extra "i" (not bad for all that text....) I think I have progressed to the next level for my eye perscription after all the proof reading. :shock:

I had downloaded Opera 7 when TC had his post about it - but then I started having problems with my Direcway and my computer resorces were being drained so I uninstalled it thinking it might be taking up memory. If it is not running does it take up any memory? Maybe I should download it again.

And I have another question.... Does ICQ take up alot of memory?

Mr T.C.

02-28-2003, 04:32 PM

Having an excess of programs and fonts can cause problems for your PC. I think too many installed programs might have been more a concern with older machines. Provided you keep your fonts under 800-900 and don't fill your hard drive with loads of progs you don't use then you should be OK. Opera is a nice program, very light on my system.

Computer resources are more about what is runnning on your machine. Hit Ctrl-Alt-Del to see what's runnning at any time. I don't use ICQ but I imagine it runs in the background all the time. They may say it is light and no problem but if you have many of these thing going in the background then they can add up. In your Accessories folder you should have a "Resource Monitor". Click it and it runs by your Windows clock. Right-click it and choose "details". Try doing the "Ctrl-Alt-Del", selecting a program and hitting "End Task" (all Win98 talk - hope its the same on your Windows). See if it makes much impact on your resources when things close.

The names of the running progs often don't make much sense. Some of them will be important Windows features and patches. My CD copy software always started at start-up and ran in the background looking to see if I insert a blank CD. Crazy. Checking this told me that it used resources yet I only write a CD once a month. I stopped it starting up and made myself a shortcut instead.

sweetfreedom

02-28-2003, 11:56 PM

Thanks TC! Cute little gadget.... I have been going up to My Computer right clicking/properties/system resources. This is alot easier!!!

Yeah, I know all about the ctrl alt delete thing.... You probably don't remember when I first started - I was having problems with my resources and learned about the basic things you need to run your system. Also, when I was dealing with Direcway this last time, he had me go through the MSCONFIG thing in Start and stop almost everything! I have added Incredimail back because it didn't seem to be working right. But maybe that was something else going on - :confused: Maybe I will go back in and stop it from running in the background again, it is a big program.

I don't think I am going to download any more programs until I get some more memory. That is on the shopping list....

I am looking at the menu you gave me (Thank you very much!!!) and I am wondering if maybe you are right about having the buttons showing. You guys know alot more about this stuff than I do. I just thought the other menu would be cleaner and there would be no scroll - but if people don't see the buttons, then like you said, they might not click on them.... I was wondering if I should maybe color code the one I already have even more with each department being a different color and then having the pages in that department alpabetically underneath. I would have to have a page that would come up when people clicked on the Department - maybe a specials page for that department. Just throwing this out there to get some feedback.... I still really like the HV Menu though. It seems so short after looking at this one - the Nav Bar looks bare! I could put something else in there I guess...

Speaking of putting something else in there, does anyone have any feedback on this Recommend It program?

http://www.recommend-it.com/rec/HomePage.jsp

Seems like those kind of things always jam your email box full of Spam. People might remember that when they think of me...

Mr T.C.

03-01-2003, 12:41 AM

You are putting your scrollbar code into the body using the html object. I think this is why your links are faulty. Run your mouse slowly over the end of BIRDS and others in your menu and the 'hand' dissapears. This STYLE code should be in the head. Join it with the existing style for the nav bar and your links should work properly...

<STYLE type="text/css">

</STYLE>

Also, youve made your link coding a bit messy. I've tidied it and separated the paragraphs so its easier to see.. I'd use this. You can see where to change the button color. Each button has four colors, Background (bg) & Mouse Out are the 'off' color. Over & Down are the 'on'. If you are going to color code then maybe stick to a color pallette so the colors all sit well together...
http://www.colorschemer.com/online.html
Your green is R 64, G 144, B 64

<table align="left" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
<tr>
<td>

<table border="0" bordercolor="darkgreen" width="120" bgcolor="#000000" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2">

<tr><td width="100%" onMouseover="LmOver(this, '#005E00')" onMouseout="LmOut(this, '#419141')"
onMouseDown="LmDown(this, '#005E00')"
onMouseUp="LmUp('Home.html')" bgcolor="#419141">Home (Home.html)</td></tr>

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onMouseDown="LmDown(this, '#005E00')"
onMouseUp="LmUp('About_Us.html')" bgcolor="#419141">About Us (About_Us.html)</td></tr>

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onMouseDown="LmDown(this, '#005E00')"
onMouseUp="LmUp('Contact_Us.html')" bgcolor="#419141">Contact Us (Contact_Us.html)</td></tr>

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onMouseDown="LmDown(this, '#005E00')"
onMouseUp="LmUp('Guarantee.html')" bgcolor="#419141">Guarantee (Guarantee.html)</td></tr>

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onMouseDown="LmDown(this, '#005E00')"
onMouseUp="LmUp('How_To_Order.html')" bgcolor="#419141">How To Order (How_To_Order.html)</td></tr>

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onMouseDown="LmDown(this, '#005E00')"
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onMouseUp="LmUp('Spirit_Page.html')" bgcolor="#419141">Spirit Page (http://ddgifts.rightstuffhosting.com/Spring/Spirit_Page.html)</td></tr>

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onMouseUp="LmUp('Candleholders.html')" bgcolor="#6EC36E">Candle Holders (Candleholders.html)</td></tr>

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onMouseDown="LmDown(this, '#005E00')"
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Shane

03-01-2003, 12:43 AM

TC you da man! nice work.....

Sweet I wouldn't touch the recommend it thing...

Mr T.C.

03-01-2003, 12:46 AM

No No No - You Da Mannn too Eric.

sweetfreedom

03-01-2003, 01:54 AM

Thanks TC - I'll go to work on that...

Thanks for the advice Shane!

Your both D'Man!!!

:walking:

sweetfreedom

03-01-2003, 02:10 AM

TC - That Color Schemer won't come up for me...

sweetfreedom

03-01-2003, 05:08 AM

Here's a start....

http://ddgifts.rightstuffhosting.com/Spring